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New for 2013/14 - R67 Cylinders with improved gauges and internal filters - as below.
Our Expertise: We use refillable LPG ourselves - and have done so all round Europe in our Hymer since 2002. And we've sold many systems that include solutions to installation problems such as imports, Secumotion, horizontal & corner mounted regulators, 50mbar, conversion from butane, campingaz backup, regulators without headroom and more - so we do know what we're talking about.
Pricing & Carriage: Please note that the vast majority of systems orders will be carriage paid / free - that's an extra saving of £10 - £12 or even £19 over our competitors!
Why Refillables? No lugging cylinders about again - ever! Easy to-up just like your vehicle fuel. Easy top-up throughout most of Europe using just two or three adapters. For weight saving use just one cylinder - you can top up anytime you wish or is convenient so two aren't necessary. For long fill intervals use twin cylinders.
"The Gaslow equipment fitted together like Meccano - just like you said!" DP." Gaslow have thoughtfully designed the system so that filler hoses only fit the fillers and outlet hoses only fit the cylinders and change-over / regulator - so if you've ever changed a cylinder you definitely can install the Gaslow system!
This page: Lists a selection of Gaslow products focussing on their refillables system as shown in their current catalogue. Please read this in conjunction with that printed catalogue or download it below. It is a very long page for you to browse for information relevant to your 'van, but if you find you need more assistance do please (click).
If you want a page showing our full Gaslow product listing not just the refillables selection please click here.
Calor user & not into refillables? - Please see Complete Gaslow Catalogue webpage here.
Simplest System of all: 1 bottle + 1 filling kit + 1 adapter, optionally plus European travel fill adapters.
Also found below: * The most popular refillables products are individually highlighted in Blue *
The confusing bit - Outputs: Output systems are surprisingly variable and so the output equipment can vary from 'van to 'van, there really isn't any such thing as 'the usual' any more! The basic kits are simple enough but overcoming strange installation positions and connecting to a wide assortment of different outputs - including imports and even the increasingly common Truma Drivesafe/Secumotion system - can sometimes be rather more complicated. We've considered offering more kits but customers tell us that just adds to their confusion so why not just ask us for help putting your system together? If we can see pictures of what you have now that is a big help and allows us to put together a straightforward kit tailored to you!
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Can I get a cheap refill and where?? Yes - running costs are much cheaper than buying in the usual exchangeable bottles, and there's no premium for buying small amounts either - a big contrast to 'Calor'. In 2010 I paid 58p/litre for Autogas from a depot and well over 60p in garages but much more for for bottled Calor gas - from 90p/L in 11-13Kg sizes up to over £1.90/L in smaller bottles! Its dearer now but the ratios are similar. With an Autogas system you can refill or simply top-up cheaply at over 1200UK Garages - see this website for garages in your area of the UK www.drivelpg.co.uk/map/index.php. There are other useful guides too from Flogas, Calor, etc. Also you can buy an annual map, sometimes even from a local garage, or very useful downloads for your TomTom or Garmin or Navman. None seem to be really complete though, our local Flogas depot isn't on the web maps for example. Several European guides are available too, you could try this useful German website for searches abroad - again it isn't complete but does offer a great starting point, www.gas-tankstellen.de/menu.php?jump=menu. Tankstellen also offer POI files. LPG is harder to find in Spain because it is less frequently offered and is often on depots and commercial premises rather than garages but there are now more than 60 refilling points there. In practice it is better to travel pre-armed with the depot information and a great resource for finding those is a privately created Google map that you can see on Google Maps here http://tinyurl.com/5fwfnh ... do note though that the Portugal section is understated - LPG is fairly common in fuel stations in the higher traffic areas - at 92 locations according to 'tankstellen'. A good printed or downloadable European guide (PDF €20 in 2010) is available from http://new.eurogasauto.egm.it/, they have on-line searches too. A handy guide to European refilling is at www.drivelpg.co.uk/filling_up.php.
NB: The Calor site in Southern Ireland says Autogas is not available there. This is not true, it is only Calor branded Autogas that is unavailable - Flogas Autogas is available in nearly 100 S.Ireland locations (click).
"... on our recent trip through France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey, Cyprus, gas was available everywhere ... I think you would be pretty unlucky not to be able to find a filling station". (or small gas depot as in Turkey and parts of Spain).
Travel Adapters: Just as with ordinary gas bottles different countries have different fittings. The good news with refillables though is that you carry just a few Gaslow adapters that allow you to connect to the local LPG pump wherever you are. The UK bayonet fitting is pre-fitted into the Gaslow filler head and traditionally you carried two more, one for Southern Europe usually known as the 'French' adapter and one for Northern Europe usually known as the 'Euro' adapter. Things have changed slightly now with the addition of a new quick-release adapter usually known as 'Euronozzel' as pictured, this is designed to replace all the others throughout Europe but history says it will just add another adapter to the mix at least for several years to come! This new adapter may appear in any country on newly installed pumps but as yet is uncommon. Repsol are increasingly installing this in Spain and also seen on new pumps in Switzerland.
Can I use a refillable at home and refill it at my local garage? Err no not usually - user-refilling of loose bottles is not permitted as indicated by the sign seen on Autogas pumps as pictured right. It might be possible though if you can find an LPG depot that will refill for you ...at a suitable price?? See also the new independent bottle from Gaslow below and their UK-only list of filling points that will accept it. The general rule for user-refilling is only via 'fixed bottle plus fixed filler head and/or filling system' - all easily achievable with the products here!
Kits: Basic Single Kits are the least you will need in the UK - a single cylinder plus a filling kit plus an adapter to allow the cylinder to accept a propane hose or regulator. Others cover dual 11Kg Gaslow Bottle systems as a 'Twin Gaslow Refillable Kit'. We've put together several handy dual kits suitable for use with the newer regulators and for easy use throughout most of Europe plus the Basic Single Kits for use with old or new gas systems in the UK. Other options include head mounting brackets** and output hoses in stainless steel or rubber. Any combination of components can be made up as a kit for you and with or without the many available options, some of which are problem solvers. Do ask for help with this we have lots of experience identifying problems and solutions! See the top of the shopping section below for example kits.
**NB: mounting in-cupboard brings ever increasing problems abroad, Gaslow's latest instructions draw attention to this with a red bubble saying "IMPORTANT Opening the locker door to fill up may cause some stations to refuse filling ... particularly in FRANCE". We're aware of this elsewhere too, in Italy for example, proper external mounting of the filer head through body side or skirt is definitely the least hassle overall even if it takes a little extra effort to fit! See our 70mm cutter hire (below) to assist with this.
New Spec for Refillable Cylinders from August 2013: Revisions for the 2014 versions include higher spec 'R67' Cylinders and also revised standard cylinders, please note that from now on the standard cylinders no longer come with the clip-on gauges as left. The original float gauge has proved troublesome over time so has been removed from the 2014 standard cylinders. New stock of these revised Standard 6Kg bottles are available now and the revised Standard 11Kg bottles will be available from September. In complete contrast the new high spec R67 cylinder does include a redesigned and mechanically accurate gauge system and supplies of these are available already - in 11Kgs only. Click to download the Gaslow R67 PDF leaflet.
The new R67s (left) have added features that means they can be classified as refillable cylinders or as refillable lpg tanks across Europe. Features include an improved and mechanically accurate full-range contents gauge with permanently attached readout, an excess flow valve to protect against gas escape on hose rupture, an over-pressure safety valve, 80% fill limiter, and a new but much needed internal filter to help guard against some of the 'oiling' issues of recent years. They come with a 10-year R67 warranty too. Please note the gas outlet now tilted upwards, if this is a problem order a 21.8LH Elbow 01-1676 to turn it sideways.
All Gaslow cylinders are also lighter than pre-2008 and easier to fit in tight spaces or sloping roof cupboards due to removal of the usual large collar. We've supplied only the new type/s ever since their introduction.
Other Recent Changes: Notably the 01-1645 to 1655 ranges no longer come with high pressure hoses - so you can specify the best ones for your system. NB: The No1 has a single fill inlet, the No2 has a twin 'T' inlet so always start with a No1 and add a No2. An elbow is recommended for use with the second inlet on the No2. Country specific hoses are now abandoned in favour of the standard hose plus country adapters.
A popular refillables misconception cleared up: You have to save up for a twin installation - wrong! As long as you can read a gauge you can manage perfectly well with just one bottle because there is no exchange involved. You just top up your gas whenever you wish or when the gauge says you are getting low. Mixed systems are perfectly possible too. The case for twin refillables is mostly to carry more gas for longer intervals between top-ups. Many small gas lockers designed for 2x6Kg will take the compact 11Kg Gaslow cylinder so you may get nearly as much the one cylinder anyway! And if you decide later that you need a second cylinder of either size the upgrade route is easy. Connecting to the refillable cylinder is easy too - the outlet valve you connect to is the same screw type as used on the Calor 4.5Kg Butane cylinder (21.8 LH). Note that this not the usual UK Propane fitting. The filling hoses have a different thread and fit to separate dedicated inlets.
Hose Fitting Information: 21.8LH / W20 is the new standard fit. 21.8LH is the thread used on Gaslow refillables and on most German bottles. It is also the same as the old Butane Screw thread as found on UK 4.5Kg bottles. W20 is the thread used on modern regulators and change-overs. So - high pressure hoses are usually 21.8LH at one end and W20 at the other. Some hoses are made with the UK Propane bullnose 'POL' instead of the 21.8LH but for many situations it is easiest just to add an adaptor to the end of a 21.8LH hose; e.g. to fit 21.8LH to UK 7Kg & 15Kg Butane bottles simply add a 21mm adaptor part no 01-1670, or to fit the same hose to UK Propane just substitute an 01-1674 adapter - all very versatile especially since other adapters can be used to connect to European bottles too! One oddity - please note that the Easyfit handwheel hoses and adapters are not suitable for Calor 3.9Kg bottles there just isn't enough room for them. For info the UK POL-propane standard spanner fits the 21.8LH nut. Also just for info the stainless filler hoses are 3/4" UNF and do not require washers. Please see also our notes on Secumotion below.
Stainless Steel Hoses - Anti-oiling! An extension of Gaslow's filler hose technology these are exceptional products - high pressure flexible hoses without rubber! There has been much discussion recently about oily plasticiser leaching out of hoses and clogging up gas regulators leading to costly repairs and unwanted time out of service. One recommendation has been to mount the regulators higher than the bottles but this is not always practical in a motorhome or caravan. Get rid of the problem by fitting our revolutionary stainless hoses and make doubly sure by fitting hoses long enough to loop below the regulator. No chance of oily residue problems with our very long-life, no-rubber hoses! In propane 'POL' easy fit top and refill/universal '21.8 LH' types right
German Triomatic? Often with three blue units one on the wall and one on each bottle. These German systems already have a 21.8LH thread so screw directly on to Gaslow refillables but you must replace the washer with a new 01-8030. Some have been adapted to fit UK POL but these can usually be removed.
Elbows? Elbow options seem to cause confusion but there's no magic or technicalities here this is just plumbing. So if you want or need a hose to turn sharply at a filler or second cylinder you'll need an elbow, if not you don't. Similarly if the Regulator is in a tight spot you may need a W20 elbow or even two in order to get the hose/s and/or changeover in place. Note also that SS hoses should not be forced into tight bends.
Truma Drivesafe / Secumotion? A variant on a number of European vehicles is the Truma Secumotion / Drivesafe system used to enable the use of gas appliances on the move. An example Secumotion hose / ends illustrated right, screw-on is the new standard but the UK metal end is usually a screw-in bullnose propane fitting of course. The general appearance of these hoses is always similar. To maintain the integrity of the in-motion system you need to either use an adapter for POL hoses or to purchase Truma's own Secumotion high pressure hoses in refillables fit. Type G8 suits the Gaslow refillables, part numbers 50410-06 for 0.45m or 50420-06 for 0.75m version. New: We can now supply these special hoses with our kits/systems. From a warranty perspective on new vehicles it might be best to use their Duo-comfort change-over too otherwise the Gaslow auto head is fine. You can now continue to use your existing UK-POL bullnose Secumotion hose/s via our adapter M09-1310 found in the refillables section towards the bottom of the page. You need one adapter for each Refillable that you need to adapt to take a POL hose.
Change-overs and Manual versus Auto? We are great fans of auto-change-over systems here but are surprised at the number of orders we receive for wholly manual systems or even systems with no change-over device at all. This often seems to be a hang over from older habits and ideas about exchanging empty bottles so we thought it would be a good idea to put the case for change-overs and auto versions in particular. Safety: Newer systems with the remote wall/bulkhead mounted regulators use high pressure hoses to deliver LPG from the bottle to the regulator. And this is high pressure at over 100psi and with the gas in liquid form. If you use the old ideas about spannering hoses on and off to make a bottle change you will release this high pressure liquid into the air as gas at 250x the volume. Given that it becomes explosive from just 2% concentration and that releasing LPG into the atmosphere is not good for the planet we strongly believe you should use a proper change-over unit instead. When using exchange bottles rather than refillables it is important to use as short a hose as possible to minimise the gas volume and then a change-over will reduce the effect by half of course. New Management: We need to explain the new thinking about gas when using refillables:- You can top up with Autogas whenever you like, there is no need to wait for an empty bottle or maybe even to know about it, you simply do it whenever is convenient, and when you do both refillable bottles are topped up together; the only thing that counts here is how much gas there is left in total, not which bottle it's in! Even with mixed systems you will rarely use much of the Calor backup because topping up is so easy. Also the R67 cylinders have built-in float gauges so you will know when you need to do so. Auto/Manual? Auto costs a little bit more so it's quite important to understand what you get for your money. The Gaslow Auto Head as illustrated is excellent value for money because it gives you manual and manual over-ride operation as well as auto operation and it has bottle in use/empty indicators as well - a fully comprehensive unit that you can use in whatever mode you want whenever you want. Auto Benefits: The first real advantage is one of convenience, an auto system means you'll never have to go out in the dark or rain at some very inconvenient moment to change bottles (there are good reasons why this is the most likely case!) and the cook won't have to panic when the gas goes out either. The second is a very practical and most important issue - you'll never come back from a day out walking or on the beach to find your fridge defrosting because a bottle has run out! This becomes ever more important as fridge sizes grow and freezers or decent freezer compartments become more common. The Gaslow Head: To manage an auto system with confidence you need an indicator to show the bottle in use and also a way to tell how much gas remains or if a cylinder is empty; Gaslow provide both in various ways, the auto-head has bottle in use indicators and you can use this feature to see if a bottle is empty (shows red if it is) and also the new R67 refillable cylinders all come with built-in float gauges that arte accurate over the full range - perfect! Also you can reselect/reset the auto head to any bottle as 'prime' at any time it contains gas so you are still fully in control, even of mixed and mixed-backup systems. You can even use it as a purely manual change-over by simply turning a bottle off at the valve. By the way, if you aren't a refillable user you can still fit gauges to 'Calor' bottles - the 01-1612 accessory gauges for the auto head on newer systems and the 01-1610 for on-bottle fitting on earlier systems for example. We can't understand why you'd want anything else! See also Gaslow's 'Twin' brochure pages (new window)
PS: Retro fit twin accessory gauges are available for heads attached to older refillables, Calor Propane, etc.
Example Systems: Straightforward
examples for you to consider - click here for pop-up page.
New / special / optional / non-catalogue items: For example: An adapter MC09-1310 to convert Refillables to UK Calor socket to accept the old 37mbar regulators or maybe an existing Calor bullnose hose - particularly useful converting Truma Secumotion systems. An In-cupboard filler head bracket 01-4160 often best used with the right-angle hose adaptor 01-4210, these elbows are also used to improve hose routing on the No2, the routing issue is pictured right. Short hose filling kits, 01-4106 & 01-4156, for use with the in-cupboard bracket. Accessory gauges for auto-change-over, 01-1612, these similar to those supplied with the Electra 2000 kit, but can be fitted to any installation of the auto head. Auto-head and 50mbar regulator, 01-9999/1755-50 for some older imported 'vans. Right angle adaptor for Jumbo, 01-1676, allows a Stainless Steel hose + Jumbo to be fitted to continuous collar bottles as found in Spain. Not all products are listed on this 'refillables selection' page - if needed click here for the full listing.
Direct Fill Cylinders: (usable at a restricted number of refilling points bt a growing number in UK and listed on the Gaslow Where to Fill page). Introduced in 2012, the Gaslow Direct Fill Cylinders are available in a lighter weight, convenient 6kg size or higher capacity 11kg size. All Direct fill cylinders come complete with the Direct Fill Valve Adapter to enable easy connection to the UK bayonet LPG pump nozzle. We also include a 37mbar Propane Regulator (with 21.8LH connection to the Gaslow cylinder) for use with your barbeque, patio heater or appliance. The cylinders have the added benefit of a Level Gauge to provide an accurate view of the contents. The cylinders are manufactured from steel and carry our full 15 year warranty. After 15 years you must return your cylinder to a Gaslow dealer who will exchange it and charge a replacement fee. For complete safety the European Pi approved filler valves automatically shut off the gas when the cylinder is 80% full, preventing the dangers associated with overfilling. Gaslow Direct Fill Cylinders can be filled at any of the filling locations listed on the Gaslow Where to Fill page. However Gaslow also state "in addition to these locations, we cannot currently guarantee that all LPG (Autogas) forecourt garages will fill your cylinders unless fitted permanently in your caravan/motorhome together with the remote Gaslow Filler Kit". The same limitation applies in Europe - increasingly in our experience. Now listed below - under main refillables listing.
Pre-2004 Systems: Autogas is Propane; actually it can be a mix but always mostly Propane in the UK and carries a substantial proportion of Propane everywhere. If you are already using Propane you can convert your existing regulator with a Propane Adapter and Gauge (01- 4330) or plain adapter (09-1310) or you can upgrade to a new style but 37mbar remote regulator and change-over like the 01-1655. For pre-2004 vans using Butane, you'll need to change your regulator and fit one of the following: Propane Manual Changeover (01-1650-REFILL, Propane Auto Changeover (01-1655-REFILL) or Propane Electra 1000 (01-1840-REFILL). If you already have a Propane changeover, simply change the high pressure hoses.
Post-2004 Systems: For new vans (post-2004) fitted with a 30mbar caravan regulator and using 7Kg or 15Kg Butane cylinders, simply remove the clip-on adapter and connect the hose/s to the refillables. If using Propane, change the high pressure hose/s to 01-6010/20-SS in Stainless Steel for protection against regulator oiling. You can also re-use your existing POL hoses by adding our adapters (09-1310). Imports with German regulator connections will usually fit directly on to the refillable cylinder - but a new washer 01-8030 is required to ensure a good seal.
Bottle Weights & Sizes: Net weights vary on all gas bottles and so are individually marked on every one. As a guide the Gaslow refillables are about 6.9Kg and 11.5Kg. This is broadly similar to conventional UK bottles. Official sizes are 492h x 246 dia for the 6Kg and 580h x 304 dia for the 11Kg size these heights allow clearance for the 'tap' to open, capacity at 80% fill is approx 11.5L and 21L . Note that the 11Kg Gaslow is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the usual Calor 13Kg propane bottle (Calor 13 = 580 actual x 315 dia). The post-2008 Gaslow bottles are a little shorter now the collar has gone. The No1 is the shortest and the 11Kg version is about 545mm with the valve open, the 6Kg being about 460mm. The No2s are the critical ones for many people and those are roughly 580mm and 500mm high with an elbow and hose fitted.
Delivery Times: We are not yet able to offer a guaranteed overnight service on Gaslow products but we'll do our best if you ask. Despatch is normally next day for delivery within two days thereafter. Due to the great popularity of the system there are occasional component shortages outside our control.
Exports? Regrettably now very difficult. Most of our exports into Europe go by air and we're no longer allowed to send cylinders by air, even empty. Overland is possible but uneconomic for single syatems.
More information: Click here for the new Refillables Installation & Use PDF or if preferred we can point you towards an approved mobile fitter. If fitting a white filler head into bodywork Sikaflex is a truly excellent outdoor adhesive-sealant for this, it isn't needed if fitting on a bracket inside the gas cupboard.
2008-9 Catalogue Pages: Click here for the new August 2009 full edition of the catalogue with some additions and amendments and/or Full 2008 Brochure - All 20 Pages : 01-02 How Can Gaslow Help : 03-05 Hoses & Adaptors : 06 What is a Gaslow (Gauges info) : 07-09 Single Bottle Systems : 10-13 Twin Bottle Systems : 14-17 Gaslow Refillables : 18-19 Marine : 20 Illustrations of awkward upgrades :
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